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    Fatimah ALotaibi

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    Third assignment

    Post by Fatimah ALotaibi on Mon May 18, 2009 11:40 pm

    Hi girls

    I am sorry for late .. and
    I was absent last lecture so I did not understand what shall I do?? No

    OK,,

    The paragragh is _____________
    Why is it important to care for animals like these? One reason is
    to protect the balance of life on Earth. Another reason is the beauty
    of the animals themselves. Each species of animal is special. Once
    it is gone, it is gone forever.


    And the machine translated that to ______________
    أين تكمن أهمية لرعاية الحيوانات مثل هذه؟ وأحد أسباب ذلك هو
    لحماية توازن الحياة على الأرض. وثمة سبب آخر هو جمال
    من الحيوانات نفسها. كل نوع من الحيوان خاصة. مرة واحدة
    ومن ذهب ، فإن من ذهب الى غير رجعة..
    so,, I wait for your comments my classmates ..
    sorry again for being late ,,
    may be the absent will affect of me No
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    Dalal Al-Eisa

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Dalal Al-Eisa on Tue May 19, 2009 1:26 am

    Hi girls
    how r u?
    sory 4 being late ... I didn't came the last lecture because I didn't fell well...
    any way this is my paragragh I hope u like it...
    لماذا من الضروري ان نهتم بالحيونات بهذه الطريقه؟هناك سبب من الاسباب وهو حماية توازن الحياة على الارض. والسبب الثاني هو جمال الحيونات نفسها. كل فصيله من الحيونات متميز. اذا انقرض صنف منها ، انقرض للابد
    that is all Surprised .
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    Felwah Al-Henaki

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Felwah Al-Henaki on Wed May 20, 2009 1:57 am

    thank you fatimah for posting the topic

    and i'm so terribly sorry for being so late Embarassed
    it was a busy week i had exams and all

    but any ways,let's get down to business shall we

    أين تكمن أهمية لرعاية الحيوانات مثل هذه؟ obviously this isn't a correct arabic sentence

    it's so full of mistakes

    idon't know why it translated why into اين؟

    so i think the sentence should be something like this :
    لماذا من المهم أن نهتم لأمر هذه الحيوانات؟

    وأحد أسباب ذلك هو لحماية توازن الحياة على الأرض

    i think وأحد أسباب ذلك should be احد الاسباب or واحد من الاسباب without ذلك and i think المحافظه is better than لحماية

    so it becomes احد الاسباب هو المحافظه على توازن الحياة على الارض

    ثمة سبب آخر هو جمال من الحيوانات نفسها -- جمال من الحيوانات نفسها should be جمال هذه الحيوانات
    so the sentence would be وثمة سبب اخر or وهنالك سبب آخر هو جمال هذه الحيوانات

    كل نوع من الحيوان خاصة ofcourse خاصة here is wrong it should be مميزة

    and نوع i think is better to say فصيلة

    so my correction is كل فصيلة من الحيوانات تعتبر مميزة

    ومن ذهب ، فإن من ذهب الى غير رجعة hahahahha sorry but this in particular is so funny :p
    i guess mt has a sense of humor after all hahaha
    >> soorry back to business Shocked

    the meaning of gone here is not ذهب but انقرض

    with an extreme make over to the sentence it should be like this

    وحالما تنقرض ، فـهي تنقرض بلا رجعة

    so i gathered my sentences and this paragraph here is the draft:

    لماذا من المهم أن نهتم لأمر هذه الحيوانات؟احد الاسباب هو المحافظه على توازن الحياة على الارض.
    ,وهنالك سبب آخر هو جمال هذه الحيوانات.كل فصيلة من الحيوانات تعتبر مميزة
    وحالما تنقرض ، فـهي تنقرض بلا رجعة

    that's all what i have to say.
    looking forward for your opinion and your draft fatimah Smile .
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    Fatimah ALotaibi

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Fatimah ALotaibi on Wed May 20, 2009 3:07 am

    Thanks Felwah ,,,

    Also, me I had many things which I should do it this week ,,
    However, next week No

    anyways,,
    I hope to discuss more but I will put my draft which I took from you Felwah Smile


    yes , about the first word ( why ) _______ the machine translated that to ________ أين

    you are right ,, it supposes to translate this word to ________لماذا ( becuse it adverb to what reason or purpose )


    so, you can see how the machine translated stupid Laughing like what Ms, Dana said ,,,,


    Machine is not always correct and we are supposed to rely on our sense when we read the text,,


    Also, .( Each species of animal is special ) the machine translated this sentence in Arabic to________
    كل نوع من الحيوان خاصة
    I think , it is not correct .. نوع
    It is better to say .. فصيلة ( because species ,, A group of animals are having similar characteristic )
    special not خاصة بل متميزة أو مميزة ( both are correct )

    The last sentence I tranlated to تتلاشى
    But, I prefer what you say to ______حالما تنقرض

    So,, After we discuss that
    we see many mistakes when we translated the text by machine translator ,,,

    So ,, My draft will be _______________
    لماذا من المهم رعاية هذة الحيوانات ؟ أحد هذة الأسباب هو لحماية توازن الحياة على الأرض. والسبب الاخر هو جمال هذة الحيوانات .
    كل فصيلا من الحيوانات يعتبر مميزا. وحالما تنقرضة, فهي تنقرض للأبد..

    Ok,, My claasmates( may be my draft is correct ,, or not ) Laughing
    I will wait your comments about my draft
    Then ,, we discuss it together and
    The finally we will put the last draft ,,,
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    Fatimah ALotaibi

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Fatimah ALotaibi on Wed May 20, 2009 3:14 am

    I am sorry ,,

    But I see the mistake which I made it in my translation in Arabic
    وحالما تنقرضة Laughing
    It is not intentional so,,

    حالما تنقرض ...

    not تنقرضة Laughing

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    Felwah Al-Henaki

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Felwah Al-Henaki on Sat May 23, 2009 3:11 am

    Hi

    I'm baaack

    fatmah, your draft is very good
    but i do have some suggestions about it

    أحد هذة الأسباب i think it would be better without هذة
    because when you say هذة it's like we have said the reasons before ..do you get what i mean?

    when you say والسبب الاخر it indicates that there's just two reasons

    i think what i said in my last reply would be more suitable "so the sentence would be وثمة سبب اخر or وهنالك سبب آخر هو جمال هذه الحيوانات"

    كل فصيلا من الحيوانات يعتبر مميزا.why did you make it مذكر instead of مؤنث??

    i think فصيلة من الحيوانات تعتبر مميزة is better

    that's what i have to say

    dying to see your final draft Smile
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    Fatimah ALotaibi

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Fatimah ALotaibi on Sat May 23, 2009 3:33 am

    Yes,,

    I will take your Suggestions into account (Felwah ) ,, Smile

    So, the final draft will be
    لماذا من المهم رعاية هذة الحيوانات ؟ أحد الأسباب هو لحماية توازن الحياة على الأرض. وهنالك.
    سبب اخر هو جمال هذة الحيوانات. كل فصيلة من الحيوانات تعتبر مميزة. وحالما تنقرض, فهي تنقرض للأبد .

    Is it good?? right Smile
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    Felwah Al-Henaki

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    Re: Third assignment

    Post by Felwah Al-Henaki on Sat May 23, 2009 3:50 am

    yeah I like it vey much

    great job fatmah <3 Smile
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